13 Comments Episode 13: Back To Basics (but which ones?)

1. Herding Code #13 - Back To Basics(But which ones?) | Lazycoder

   August 15th, 2008 at 10:30 am

   [...] Herding Code #13 is up – Back to Basics(But which ones). What are the basics of software development? We’ve seen a lot of blogs and heard some podcasts talking about getting back to the basics of software development and we all wondered, “What are the basics?” Are linked lists considered basic knowledge? Or are design patterns now required knowledge? Share and Enjoy: [...]

2. Scott Hanselman

   August 15th, 2008 at 12:37 pm

   

   The “Offline Installer for the Client Profile” is the smaller one PLUS the Full one, so it’s all inside the same EXE. It’s not weird, it’s just covering all the bases. ;) Offline=Client+Full.

3. admin

   August 15th, 2008 at 12:43 pm

   

   @Scott – Thanks. That seems really strange – why not have a small installer for CD or other offline installation scenarios, which just includes the Client Profile?

4. Anthony Bouch

   August 15th, 2008 at 9:49 pm

   

   Good talk – I don’t have a CompSci degree either – but I’ve always felt it was something I had to work hard to compensate for.

   Some of the topics I’ve needed investigate on my own have included: Machine organisation, memory management, (just enough C++ to grok stack and heap memory allocations and management) floating point arithmetic, regular expressions, data structures including arrays, linked lists, binary structures and searches (binary chop, red and black binary trees etc) and just enough general math to help. I’m NOT a C++ or low level bit shifting alpha geek (and never will be) – but these topics have all helped me a lot. I struggled with Knuth’s Art of Computer Programming – but really enjoyed Randall Hyde’s Understanding the Machine. And then after a few years of .Net dev – Jeffery Richter’s excellent book – CLR via C# (and of course a ton of other excellent reads from Fowler, GoF, Head First etc…)

   I also totally agree with the comments about understanding encapsulation, inheritance polymorphism before trying to become a patterns wizard (which I’m certainly not)

   It’s been hard work trying to be an application developer without a CompSci degree – but feel I’ve just about made up for the main bits I’ve missed and know better which areas to stay away from because I’m simply not qualified to work on. Now it’s just the month by month challenge of combining fundamentals, continued learning – with trying to keep up with the avalanche of new tools and frameworks that are being released by all the vendors.

   As for internships / mentoring – man that is so true too. Learning from other much more skilled people around you is so cool.

   Per Ardua Ad Astra

5. Ryan Farley

   August 18th, 2008 at 11:41 pm

   

   Great episode. I was about to stop it at the end and then heard the last minute or so, sort of the “outtakes”. I should have commented earlier about the LINQ episode where Scott’s voice was spliced in with completely irrelevant and random comments. That was so completely hilarious that I am chucking about it even now just thinking about it.

   I think I’ll build a “ScottBot” that will blurt out random Scott comments throughout the day.

   -Ryan

6. Ben

   August 19th, 2008 at 9:43 pm

   

   I agree with Anthony that a CompSci degree represents knowledge that can be hard to acquire any other way. I found that when I was doing the CompSci degree I was complaining that I wasn’t learning enough ‘programming’ but as soon as I left what I had learned kept being useful regardless of language or application.

   Also, what is considered ‘The Basics’ changes as you learn more. At some point one of ‘The Basics’ was ‘what is a variable’ now that knowledge is so embedded that it isn’t even considered knowledge!

7. Let's go back to the basics of Cohesion and Coupling - Jeremy D. Miller -- The Shade Tree Developer

   September 21st, 2008 at 7:43 pm

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   September 21st, 2008 at 9:43 pm

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   December 27th, 2008 at 3:32 pm

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10. drozzy

    April 16th, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    

    “… as if it’s some sort of like recipe book for constructing software”
    Well, Yeah. That’s what patterns where documented for. To apply them to specific problems!

    Man, programmers say the darndest things

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    June 12th, 2009 at 1:55 pm

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    September 12th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

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    February 6th, 2010 at 2:57 pm

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